Grace and Peace

Grace and Peace be unto you.

Starting this month I will be posting weekly sharing’s or teachings on various subjects from questions that are asked of me or from messages to address what is happening in the body of Christ.

Keep you posted


Apostle Payne


How do you know you have heard from God.

I was up this evening and one of my sons said to me hey dad how do you know you have heard the Lord speak to you. I at first gave him all the usual answers, God speaks through His word, the voice of the Holy Spirit, a still small voice, and he said I don’t get it but how does God speak , how can I know that God spoke to me. So I asked how do you play music, he said I hear the melodies, I said good so just think that God is giving you a melody to sing or to play and when you play it your playing what you hear in your head, he said yea, I said that’s how God speaks He speaks to you in ways that you can comprehend and you will give the message to someone else. Then my son said I understand that but really how does God speak. Then I realized that He was looking for the person of God to manifest that way He could see God. He said because I have doubts and fears. So the Holy Spirit had me speak with him for alittle while longer and then the Spirit of God said tell him this.

You know that mom and dad are preachers and teachers of Gods Word , he said yes I know, so do you think that when we preach that what we are teaching or preaching is not true , he said no it’s true , I said why? He said it’s because it’s Gods Word. I said true. I said but what are you gaining from what we are preaching or teaching? He said information! I said information about what? He said about God. I said then what is information about God he said its knowledge. I said correct. So the Lord showed me to tell him that when we get knowledge of what God is saying or what God wants us to do , if we know that we know it’s from God then we will begin to do it and walk in it and as we begin to do this it will removed the doubts and because the doubt is removed fear has no ground to stand on.

So if we have the knowledge of God about something and begin to apply ourselves with it, it removes doubt which intern would banish fear.

So when I said it to him he said oh I got it dad ,

So brothers and sisters the thing that will banish doubt and fear is the knowing that God has either told you to do something or called you to do something or said something to you. The assurance that you know that you heard from the Lord removes the doubt and fear and you can now walk in total victory.

So saints don’t be quick to push those children away they may be the ones to lead you into a deeper revelation of God.

Shalom,shalom in His service
Apostle Payne

New Wine Must be poured into New Winskins

I was looking over some notes and felt the Leading of the Lord to share. It maybe new to some but to others you may be familiar with the message. But no matter what it’s still helpful to the body of Christ.

Luke 5:36-38

For any true changes to take place and remain effective there must be a true structure to nurture and support it. Our desire is to return to the 1st Century Church, a Church that was true to the Great Commission and The Commandments of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Church then offered people fellowship, discipleship, worship, ministry and evangelism. Without this type of balance in the Body of Christ it will emphasize the purpose that expresses the gifts and passions of its leaders especially  the Pastor. The gifts and passions of the pastor would then limited to his or her specific mixing of gifts. The church must be lead by the pastor , but not limited by the pastor . There must be a balance and that is the key word here. So Brothers and Sisters who are Pastoring look for the new wine and give yourselves totally over the Holy Spirit as HE pours into us a fresh new Move of the Spirit.

Five Kinds of Churches

1. The Soul winning Church- the terms you’re likely to hear most often are witnessing, evangelism, salvation, altar calls and crusades. In this church, anything other than evangelism is considered and second role. The pastor sees his role as an evangelist.

2. Experiencing God Church- here the passion and gifts are in in the area of worship. They will be directed to experience the passion and gifts in the church through worship. Key terms are praise , prayer , worship, music, and the gifts of the spirit, power and revival. The pastor will instinctively lead the church into experiencing the presence of God through singing, praise and worship.

3. The Family Reunion Church- the church that focuses primarily on fellowship is shared by the pastor and they are highly relational, loves people, and spends most of their time caring for the needs of the people. The pastor becomes a chaplain. Key terms are love, belonging, fellowship, caring, relationship, potluck dinners, small groups, and fun. Most churches of this type have less than 200 members because that’s all that one person can personally handle.

4. The Classroom Church- the church views the primary role of the pastor as being a teacher. If teaching is the primary gift, then they will emphasize the preaching and teaching of the Word, and not the other purposes and gifts of the church. Members come to church with a notebook, take notes, and go home. Key words are expository preaching, bible study, Greek and Hebrew, doctrine, knowledge, truth and discipleship.

5. The Social Conscience Church- the pastor of this church views themselves as a prophet and reformer. This church will change the world through prophecy and taking stands against injustice and world causes and events. Using biblical references to support their stands is a primary tool. Key terms are: needs, serve, share, minister, take a stand and the do something mind set.

When speaking of the New Wine, all 5 of these type churches should not be splintered and separated but all 5 of these types of things should be in the 1st Century type Church that has new wine flowing in them. We will see all of the ministry gifts flowing and not just some of the ministry gifts.We need more 1st century type churches today.

So brothers and sisters ask the Father for New Wine, just know that there is a process to get the new wine but submit your self to the process and walk in the shoes of the saints from the first century where they turn their known world upside down. Amen

Clouds without rain.

Recently i was listening to a message that a preacher was preaching and while listening , the Lord pulled me to the side and said “they are clouds without rain”. I said yes Lord but help me to understand. He began to show me that they can preach a good message, move the congregation, have people shouting , running, dancing and all of that, they didn’t have the Glory. There are many a preacher that can preach , sing and dance but can they or are they  carrier’s of the Glory of God.

Jude:12 says Theses are those who are defiled in their feasts and run riot while feeding themselves without fear, clouds without rain that wander with the wind; trees, whose fruit has died, who are without fruit, which have died twice and they have pulled up from their roots(Aramaic Bible in plain English).

(KJV) says: These are spots in your love feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots.


We can have good preaching and little anointing. We can have bad preaching with little anointing and the churches are satisfied with it. we have become content on the comfortable messages that pastors are bringing and we even encourage the pastors to continue on bringing that good word . But the good word is not the word that’s going to challenge our faith, or even to have us feel the conviction of the Holy Ghost. Whats happening Church you don’t pray, fast and seek for God like you used to do.

We look for these clouds with out rain that’s what the Lord was saying we want, We want a good message but no Glory. Its the Glory of God that would challenge us and its the Glory of God that would keep us on our face. God says in the last days I will pour out of my Spirit, but it really seems like no on has the Spirit. How can you give what you don’t have, and we pretend to have it and go through the motions and the sheep know whats the truth but no one wants to offend and says— hey brother preacher that’s no from God. God forbid if we who are really hearing the Holy Spirit was to say that the message was earthly, fleshly, devilish, but that’s what James says in the book of James 3:8-18.

So Preachers, Teachers, Men and Women of God, lets get the Glory of God in our lives then when stand behind the pulpit to give God’s Word, His Glory would come forth and we would fade in the Presence of our Awesome God and let HIS Glory minister to HIS people.

Shalom, Shalom, Shalom, Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

Church the Lord says LOOK FOR HIS GLORY, then you will find all that you need in the GLORY.

“And the Wall came Tumbling Down”

Could you imagine God telling you to walk around a city, a whole city and not say a word for seven days. Not a single word only the blowing of the rams horn(Shofar) is to be heard and the sound of your feet walking in the streets or the sand. And after seven days you now get the word to shout for the Lord has given you the city, and to your surpirse the walls of this great fortified city goes straight down into the ground before you and you litterally walk in and take possession of what is there for God. Does this sound unbelievable well believe it because its a true story.  When God had the children of Israel cross through the Jordon river (remember on dry ground) into the Land of promise to possess the land. God reestablishes His covenant with this new generation and then appears to Joshua as the Captain of the Lords Host, and tell Joshua who is a military man himself, “Joshua see , I have given into thine hand Jericho, and the king and the mighty men of war”. But now The Lord gives Joshua instructions on how to accomplish this task. Perhaps God has called you as He has called Joshua, and said that he has hand picked you to lead a people or to do a special assignment. Perhaps He just called you to pray and have you follow the instructions the He has given to you. Many times we get into trouble because we know what to do and have been called by God but we don’t always follow the instructions given to us either in the manual (Bible) or the specific instructions given by the Lord Himself. Now is the time to begin to obey the voice of the Lord and do what He has commanded you to do. Lets begin to follow the instructions of the Lord and when we do we will get the Victory just like Joshua and the children of Israel.


Remember Shout for He has given you the City.


Apostle Payne

Pentecost – what happened to it?

My brothers and sisters in Christ, I submit this post with an urgency in my spirit . But it’s also of a sad state of the church in our region. Tomorrow is Pentecost Sunday and many people would ask me what is pentecost Sunday , is this some new Christian holiday or something and I tell them by no means it it a new holiday but a celebration of the birth of the Church of Jesus Christ. O you say, and I say yes the Church of Jesus Christ was birthed on Pentecost and we have so many celebrating every other holiday but the right holidays. Our Jewish brethren celebrate the feast of Pentecost which was or is the feast of Booths, but the church don’t celebrate Pentecost. Even Pentecostals don’t celebrate Pentecost. How we have gotten away from the foundation of our faith, if there was no Pentecost then all that we do in the name of The Lord would be for nothing. We cannot represent a kingdom of power and not demonstrate this power. So wake up church lets get it right, let’s acknowledge what heavens acknowledges and then we will see the power of God hear on earth as it is in heaven.

shalom, shalom lord help us to acknowledge you and your Holy Spirit and the church that is full of power and your might that we would represent you , in Jesus Name Amen